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tivaan stormbringer · May 10, 2007, 04:24 PM // 16:24

I agree with account wide titles.
My reason is this: I finished 6 titles on my warrior I am proud of those and I just got bored of playing warrior all the time. So I switched to my monk, by the way I have 8 chars play through all 3 games on all of them, obtained all the skills etc, but the problem is no one knows or sees the accomplishments I have done, because I am on my monk.
I feel that the titles are for me as a player, after all if my chars were the ones accomplishing this then dang it they need to get out there and do this grind without me guiding them.
I have seen all of Tyria and the rest of the continents, I dont need to see them again for another character, I have beaten the missions and bonuses once and in some cases 8 times, why do i need to go back and get the bonuses I missed again just because I switched chars?
I dont care if a lvl 3 ele has the protector title on if they have been through the game completely and seen it all and they started a new char then congrats they have beat the game. I know what to expect from that person and just maybe that lvl 3 ele can help a group get through that tough bonus because he or she knows what to expect in that bonus.

I realize there are people out there that think they shouldnt be account wide and they have great reasons but my question to them is this: How is having account wide titles affecting you negatively if you have done it once already and now can start another char and still show leetness with that same title?

tivaan stormbringer · May 10, 2007, 04:30 PM // 16:30

srry double post

Zexion · May 10, 2007, 08:34 PM // 20:34

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Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow

YOU killed Glint, YOU did the chest runs, so YOU (ie ALL your chars) should be able to wear the titles. It was done right with PvP titles, PvE should follow.

Aren't you contradicting yourself?

Yes I am, thank you, corrected myself. Stand by my newly edited opinion:P

_Zexion

MithranArkanere · May 10, 2007, 09:04 PM // 21:04

The titles that should be account wide are those that can be acquired in PVP and IN OUTPOSTS:

* Champion
* Gamer
* Gladiator
* Hero
* Lucky
* Unlucky
* Kurzick Friend
* Luxon Friend
* Commander
# Drunkard
# Wisdom
# Sweet Tooth

Only three are missing.
The rest are stronlgy PvE, and depend in profession.
But using items inside and outpost dos NOT depend on profession.
So identifying, getting drunk and using other event items inside cities should count as 'account-wide'.

Thargor · May 10, 2007, 09:16 PM // 21:16

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Originally Posted by Zexion

IMO, only titles that ever had a reason to be character based was:
Maxed Titles
Defender of Ascalon
Sunspear
Lightbringer
Survivor
Skill Hunter
Explorer
Protector
Guardian
Vanquisher

/signed for making every title except the ones listed above account based

_Zexion

/Agreed

There is no reason to not make the other titles account based.

I have 14 maxed titles on my main that I have worked hard for and I am pretty sure that noone really cares. I receive a PM now and then asking how i earned a title or someone just saying congrats on my title, but I have also received Pm's calling me a noob because I have the legendary Survivor title on my assassin and they think i paid a power leveler or logged every time I got into trouble. This holds true for many titles. Got a high fame title, you must have IWAY'd it. High hero battle title, bet you /rolled it.
There is an easy way to get almost every title in the game if you have the gold to pay for it. Quit worrying about what other people think and how meaningless your KoaBD and PKM is going to be because they are both extremely easy to get therfore it is already meaningless to just about anyone but yourself. Once you start doing titles for yourself and not to show off to other people all your arguments mean nothing.

Sophitia Leafblade · May 11, 2007, 10:44 AM // 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mylon

Eww. What a great way to forever chain people to one class.

"R8+ only LFM"
"But I have R10 on my W/Mo"
"Go away, n00b"

Thats how it is in PVE, why should PvP be any different

. Yes u may have R10 on ur wammo and that doesnt make u necessarily good as a monk. I could have Guardian on my Rit that doesnt necessarily make me a good assassin player. AS the Seasoned PVPers always say just u can still play with friends, guildies etc if ur having problems with getting a party.

Random Monk · May 11, 2007, 10:41 PM // 22:41

I'd support the benefits of the Wisdom and Treasure Hunter titles to be account wide. I don't care if I can wear the title, as long as salvaging does not involve using storage and a character switch.
The idea of an account based counter for Chests opened and rares IDed sounds like a great idea as long as it only affects your salvaging and lock pick survivability and can not be worn like a title.
/signed for making any benefits account wide, but keep wearable titles character based.

Other current character titles should stay that way. The Lightbringer and Sunspear titles come closest to getting my support, but due to how easy it is to get even a few levels worth, it is probably best to keep them character based.

Even though I probably will never do it, I don't see any harm in a UAX title.
/signed for UAX title.

Perfected Shadow · May 12, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44

Quote:

Quit worrying about what other people think and how meaningless your KoaBD and PKM is going to be because they are both extremely easy to get therfore it is already meaningless to just about anyone but yourself.

Well maybe it was easy for you but for most of us, attaining that can be fairly hard. You should have the biggest reason (having 14 titles) to want pve titles to be account based, but since you said you do it for yourself, then you shouldn't care whether they become account based or not. So just type /signed cause it's shorter ; )

bhavv · May 12, 2007, 08:06 AM // 08:06

My primary character is an elemtalist that is grinding titles and is currently on 9 maxed.

My secondary is a monk for farming, Fow/UW, and HA.

I have more chests opened on my monk because of how much fow I do, which I would rather have gotten on my elly, but everytime in in ToA someone wants my monk.

I agree with making treasure hunter/wisdom titles as account based, and also the koabd title track.

I find it too stupid how people argue that PVE titles are a measure of experiance... nothing in PVE is a measure of experiance, its all grinding. You can have an elly spamming flare, a warrior with mending, or a monk with with healing hands and still grind the PVE titles.

Anyone that thinks PVE titles are a measure of how good you are at the game obviously arent good at it themselves.

Perfected Shadow · May 13, 2007, 06:04 AM // 06:04

Quote:

find it too stupid how people argue that PVE titles are a measure of experiance... nothing in PVE is a measure of experiance, its all grinding.

Which brings us to the idea of making PVE titles account based so the grind will lessen. Also grinding, in a way, conveys experience.

Quote:

Anyone that thinks PVE titles are a measure of how good you are at the game obviously arent good at it themselves.

PVE is part of the game therefore PVE titles are usually fair indicators of skill in the game PVE wise.

Hyper Cutter · May 13, 2007, 06:27 AM // 06:27

Wisdom and Treasure Hunter should be account-based, at the very least. Hell, all my characters pass golds to my ranger for ID'ing as it is...

Yawgmoth · May 13, 2007, 05:48 PM // 17:48

In the first place, the Maxed titles track (Kind of a Big Deal) should be account based!
It should count all your achievements, all unique maxed titles on your account. Should be displayable on any character.
(Wisdom and Treasure Hunter should obviously be account based just as Lucky/Unlucky are, but it's too obvious to even discuss.)

Without such an update, i see no reason to work on maxing any PvE titles. Spending millions on drinking or sweets feels like a waste on a character that's not a Legendary Survivor or Legendary Defender of Ascalon. And it's just wrong.

I don't have only one primary character but 2 and titles are spread around them evenly. I don't want to repeat any work i did on any of them and can't choose a primary one so i stopped earning titles at all. And i hate it.

Making the KaoBD track account based would a good reason for me to buy a character slot and start a Presearing character for the Legendary Defender of Ascalon title. And i bet lots of people would do that too. And then another char for Legendary Survivor. And not have to repeat all guardians, explorers, skillhunters, etc on them which is pointless grind.

Want an Uber character-based title? There was an excellent idea floating around of a Savior of Xxx title (Protector+Guardian+Explorer+Vanquisher+Skillhunte r of Xxx area) and a Legendary Savior as the ultimate title combining all the titles which should remain character-based. (It may as well be given another name but the idea combined with making KaoBD track account based is beyond brilliant)

Charlotte the Harlot · May 14, 2007, 04:18 AM // 04:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by tivaan stormbringer

I agree with account wide titles.
My reason is this: I finished 6 titles on my warrior I am proud of those and I just got bored of playing warrior all the time. So I switched to my monk, by the way I have 8 chars play through all 3 games on all of them, obtained all the skills etc, but the problem is no one knows or sees the accomplishments I have done, because I am on my monk.
I feel that the titles are for me as a player, after all if my chars were the ones accomplishing this then dang it they need to get out there and do this grind without me guiding them.
I have seen all of Tyria and the rest of the continents, I dont need to see them again for another character, I have beaten the missions and bonuses once and in some cases 8 times, why do i need to go back and get the bonuses I missed again just because I switched chars?
I dont care if a lvl 3 ele has the protector title on if they have been through the game completely and seen it all and they started a new char then congrats they have beat the game. I know what to expect from that person and just maybe that lvl 3 ele can help a group get through that tough bonus because he or she knows what to expect in that bonus.

I realize there are people out there that think they shouldnt be account wide and they have great reasons but my question to them is this: How is having account wide titles affecting you negatively if you have done it once already and now can start another char and still show leetness with that same title?

You bring up a good point who cares if a lvl 3 has a title its just an expierenced player with a new char. Make ALL titles global.

Dronte · May 14, 2007, 08:08 AM // 08:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

Wisdom and Treasure Hunter should be account-based, at the very least. Hell, all my characters pass golds to my ranger for ID'ing as it is...

Treasure hunter? :O
Imagine a lvl 2 mesmer in Kamadan with grandmaster treasure hunter title. (lol)

teenchi · May 14, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

/signed. I play all 10 professions and usually only cap an elite in the primary profession unless it's something that makes for a cool build in a secondary. I've capped almost all of the elites in all 3 campaigns but only in the primary. I'd like to see some kind of account based skill hunter title for that. I'd also like to see it for wisdom and treasure hunter.

Omni15 · May 23, 2007, 11:21 AM // 11:21

The only character based title I want changed to account wide is the Sweet Tooth title. Like the account wide Gamer title, points for sweet tooth can only be acquired during special events and holidays. This severely limits the amount of time a player has to accumulate points for this title. Making this title account wide would enable a player to split the the number of points they need to earn between multiple characters.

Onarik Amrak · May 23, 2007, 11:41 AM // 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omni15

The only character based title I want changed to account wide is the Sweet Tooth title. Like the account wide Gamer title, points for sweet tooth can only be acquired during special events and holidays. This severely limits the amount of time a player has to accumulate points for this title. Making this title account wide would enable a player to split the the number of points they need to earn between multiple characters.

You can buy Red-Bean Cakes at the merchant.

inscribed · May 23, 2007, 04:38 PM // 16:38

/signed

All titles should be account based.

Alaris · May 28, 2007, 03:29 PM // 15:29

Ok people, I have read the posts since my post "To end to the debate", and it seems nobody read my post.

Mixed titles is the way to go, really. It acknowledges work done across characters, but also identifies work done on the same or different character. Work with me, or tell me what I failed.

Alaris · Jun 08, 2007, 03:35 PM // 15:35

*First and last bump*

Mixed-titles incorporates the pro's of both character- and account-based titles. Basically, you can show that you got the title independently of which character was used, except that it shows differently if you used the character you're playing now.

More details, and a chance to vote here:

http://www.nikiwiki.com/Gw2/index.ph...r-based_titles